CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

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CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Valkrae » 29 Oct 2018, 05:44

Your Byond Key: Valkrae

Your Character Name: Shiela 'Tank' Maldin

Accused Byond Key(if known): ChengChan

Character Name: CDR Cheng 'Monk

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 3:50 AM 10/29/2018

What rule(s) were broken: RULE 16 - BATTLEFIELD EXECUTIONS

Description of the incident:

I was a survivor on Prison Station. After 12 minutes of basically being AFK in a dark corner, hiding from ayys, I found the Marines. The Marines took me up to the shuttle, and from there, I walked my way to the Bridge. I asked to be let in to speak to the Commander, and he came to let me in. As I entered, I expressed my desire to go back down and fight. He refused, and continually asked me to be his 'servant', at one point even demanding that I go and get him food, while pointing at the floor.

No longer wishing to be apart of this weird fetish RP, I asked to go and fight again. This continued, until eventually we moved into the exterior room of the bridge. I asked to be let out. He asked me if I was defying orders. I told him to let me out again, and then I was battlefield executed.

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How you would punish the accused: Removing his Commander whitelist, honestly.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by ChengChan » 29 Oct 2018, 05:55

I would like to introduce myself, so I am Commander Cheng Chan.

Nice try, amigo. By the way I can give you any job you want or do anything at my ship but y'know why did I BE'd you? You were talking to a high rank officer which is the Commander and insulting much unless you don't and I give you a chance to live. The real problem here is you may go out to combat information center but the way you talk like a threat for me. What do you expect?

"Servant" word is a part of roleplay so we could talk much more and I offer you a job but you denied it. You want to go down? So you can meme my marines down there? And disturb them? I've told you that let my Marines will handle it.

As a Commander my main priority is to make you safe or won't allow myself that any survivors to go down and help. I BE'd you since you cannot respect.

This is probably an IC issue. You mad? Not my fault. You talk and insult a commander as a survivor? We have no MPs so I have no choice but to BE you since you are a threat for me.

And I keep telling "I can give you a job" you don't like a servant and yet I offer you anything but not as a Marine. Still you talk much. It's funny when someone is salty like you cause you were out of the round.

As a Commander I am not stupid to let any people to call me this since my rank is higher. Why I BE'd you? Now watch what did you say. Remove my whitelist? You salty? Any Commanders can be'd you since you were a survivor and no any MPs to arrest you. I am not really forcing you to get some food or be my servant because I was doing a roleplay with ya. And I offer you any jobs by the way.

" Go fuck youself, fuck that, you're fucking a creepy, How about go fuck youself, you're a creep," <----------------------------- No MPs and I BE'd you. Watch your mouth next time.

Edit: You push too far, amigo. Allowing myself to let you out at CIC is ashame of myself especially the insults. To tell you frankly amigo, I have no plan to BE'd you but you went too far already. You insulted, I allow you. But being too much any Commanders can BE'd you.

Yes maybe I have some mistake like the "servant" word (maybe) but I offer you any jobs but not as a Marine. And I was not forcing you to get me some food or anything at all and didn't force you to be a servant since I offer you any jobs except a Marine role. If you were mad OOC, I won't force you but we are dealing an in game or in character issue on that round probably.

Also, I am not a cruel, vicious or commie commander. I just do my role or part as a Commander.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Survivor » 29 Oct 2018, 07:09

This is a Councilman's opinion on the situation. Delete if necessary.


Me and another council member have talked to Cheng before about BEing around when he was first accepted, as he was very trigger happy so take that as you like.


Now onto the report. If someone isn't RPing the way you want them to, you don't shoot their fucking skull. They insulted you, yes. They had good reason to, since you were locking them in the CIC. Cheng, your justification is pretty bad. "I can't let any survivors go back down, so I'll just kill them up here" is basically what you are saying. They weren't a threat to the mission at all, and were basically offering to help. Not to mention the fact that in your response, you kept putting things like "You are mad, you are salty". If we had already gotten our more specific BE guidelines, this report would guaranteed be a warning. In my opinion, this is a bad BE.


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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by ChengChan » 29 Oct 2018, 07:19

Survivor wrote:
29 Oct 2018, 07:09
This is a Councilman's opinion on the situation. Delete if necessary.


Me and another council member have talked to Cheng before about BEing around when he was first accepted, as he was very trigger happy so take that as you like.


Now onto the report. If someone isn't RPing the way you want them to, you don't shoot their fucking skull. They insulted you, yes. They had good reason to, since you were locking them in the CIC. Cheng, your justification is pretty bad. "I can't let any survivors go back down, so I'll just kill them up here" is basically what you are saying. They weren't a threat to the mission at all, and were basically offering to help. Not to mention the fact that in your response, you kept putting things like "You are mad, you are salty". If we had already gotten our more specific BE guidelines, this report would guaranteed be a warning. In my opinion, this is a bad BE.


Emerald will decide the outcome, but I expect a warning.

Yep, I have a mistake for locking her up. I allow her to insult me but she is too much by the way and I awaiting for any MPs to come around but none of them. Warning? I accept it.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Valkrae » 29 Oct 2018, 10:56

ChengChan wrote:
29 Oct 2018, 05:55
I would like to introduce myself, so I am Commander Cheng Chan.

Nice try, amigo. By the way I can give you any job you want or do anything at my ship but y'know why did I BE'd you? You were talking to a high rank officer which is the Commander and insulting much unless you don't and I give you a chance to live. The real problem here is you may go out to combat information center but the way you talk like a threat for me. What do you expect?

"Servant" word is a part of roleplay so we could talk much more and I offer you a job but you denied it. You want to go down? So you can meme my marines down there? And disturb them? I've told you that let my Marines will handle it.

As a Commander my main priority is to make you safe or won't allow myself that any survivors to go down and help. I BE'd you since you cannot respect.

This is probably an IC issue. You mad? Not my fault. You talk and insult a commander as a survivor? We have no MPs so I have no choice but to BE you since you are a threat for me.

And I keep telling "I can give you a job" you don't like a servant and yet I offer you anything but not as a Marine. Still you talk much. It's funny when someone is salty like you cause you were out of the round.

As a Commander I am not stupid to let any people to call me this since my rank is higher. Why I BE'd you? Now watch what did you say. Remove my whitelist? You salty? Any Commanders can be'd you since you were a survivor and no any MPs to arrest you. I am not really forcing you to get some food or be my servant because I was doing a roleplay with ya. And I offer you any jobs by the way.

" Go fuck youself, fuck that, you're fucking a creepy, How about go fuck youself, you're a creep," <----------------------------- No MPs and I BE'd you. Watch your mouth next time.

Edit: You push too far, amigo. Allowing myself to let you out at CIC is ashame of myself especially the insults. To tell you frankly amigo, I have no plan to BE'd you but you went too far already. You insulted, I allow you. But being too much any Commanders can BE'd you.

Yes maybe I have some mistake like the "servant" word (maybe) but I offer you any jobs but not as a Marine. And I was not forcing you to get me some food or anything at all and didn't force you to be a servant since I offer you any jobs except a Marine role. If you were mad OOC, I won't force you but we are dealing an in game or in character issue on that round probably.

Also, I am not a cruel, vicious or commie commander. I just do my role or part as a Commander.
My only insult was calling you a creep, because you were acting like one. I didn't want to be your servant in RP either. You can call it RP however much you want, but the fact of the matter is, you BE'd someone for little to no reason. It wasn't like I pulled a gun on you or threatened to shoot anyone.

My only crime was wanting to get back into the meat of the round, instead of spending the entire round subject to whatever weird fetish RP you enjoy that involves telling survivors to 'go get me some food' and then executing them when they tell you no.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Bancrose » 29 Oct 2018, 13:33

As a Commander Councilman I am allowed to have my opinion on this.

Cheng I have talked to you about this a couple times now. You understand what these new BE rules are right. When we want to avoid these excessively poorly reasoned BE's.

A Survivor comes up to your CIC. You pretty much forced them to stay in your CIC, asked them to be your servant(Not really befitting of an officer). This is the weirdest part honestly. But the BE just for the insults. There has to be a point where you need to think. Would someone be summarily executed for something like this?

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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by RobBrown4PM » 29 Oct 2018, 13:48

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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Elcheba » 29 Oct 2018, 14:30

As the Moderator who handled the Ahelp and encouraged the player to make this report i would like to say something about this.

Valkrae Ahelped asking if they could shoot their way out of CIC, i told them to RP their way out and they did (proud of you). Doing the right thing however, ended up being detrimental to their round.
Things like this are what encourage players to lower their standards and go for the easy way out risking themselves to a ban. why should i bother RPing if it is going to ruin my round?.

I think that atleast a severe warning is in order. however, this is up to Emerald.

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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by taketheshot56 » 29 Oct 2018, 17:50

Chen i and others have spoken to you many times regarding the rules. While it pains me to say this you do indeed need to realize your wrongdoing and that will most likely be getting a punishment handed down from this player report. Not in any realm of circles would it be okay to execute a civilian for insulting you. This has gone too far. You essentially executed them for refusing to be their servant. That should NOT be happening.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by ChengChan » 29 Oct 2018, 19:08

Aye. Whatever is the punishment i would accept it.
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Re: CDR Cheng 'Monk' Chan - Bogus Execution

Post by Emeraldblood » 30 Oct 2018, 21:15

We've had repeat problems with Cheng for things like BE's and given we're cracking down on CO, Cheng will have his CO removed for the time being. It should be noted that Cheng was given warnings prior to this event. He's free to ask for it to be reinstated following the new whitelist reinstatement rules.

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