SLs get Req Radio

User avatar
XenonXenotime
Registered user
Posts: 4
Joined: 23 Dec 2016, 12:38
Byond: XenonXenotime

SLs get Req Radio

Post by XenonXenotime » 23 Dec 2016, 13:50

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
SLs can speak in req radio, or :U.
Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
SLs can order the Req people to order things and drop things directly, very useful if there is no RO and has no acsess to the Command channel.
Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
Just... do :u and you can talk to req.
Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
Modify the SL's radio.
Here kitty, kitty, kitty. Meow. Here, Jonesy.

- Famous last words of Brett

User avatar
Shyguychizzy
Registered user
Posts: 435
Joined: 10 Nov 2015, 22:44
Byond: Shyguychizzy

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Shyguychizzy » 23 Dec 2016, 14:03

+1 Legitly something we need, what if command were incompetent or even theres only CT but no RO around? SLs are considered command staff I would assume to a certain point, it would help.
"Young Carrier (920) (follow) hisses, "Shut up both of you or we aren't going to invade disneyland."

Long time ago, I, Ka'Torag-na Halkrath, Skilled Master Hunter Of Prey, Unleashed an unspeakable evil upon Xenos and Humans! But a foolish Xeno Hunter wielder of robustness stepped forth and opposed me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore a gate of Salt of Solitude and flung em into the world of CM, and took out their Facehugger Capabilities! Now, this Xeno Fool seeks to return the favour, and undo my evil reign and of many other predator predecessors!

A friendly message from Biolock in Dchat:
https://gyazo.com/24abd880ae896556691c5c6e5229d9ee
Second friendly message from Biolock in D chat:
https://gyazo.com/f97decded6da48e04a9b75dbb77d06e7

User avatar
Killaninja12
Donor
Donor
Posts: 142
Joined: 04 Feb 2016, 16:07

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Killaninja12 » 23 Dec 2016, 16:02

+1 It's quite annoying always having to have an intermediary garner you supplies when in all reality you should just be able to cover that yourself. I mean, it's fine to just make a quick request of simple things to command and have them process it, however it would make a lot more sense to allow the option to be omnipresent whilst ensuring it's infallible to an extent. Not much reason not to have it, so a definite thing that could be added in that's a quality of life improvement.
Image

User avatar
Sarah_U.
Registered user
Posts: 1277
Joined: 24 Apr 2016, 07:19

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Sarah_U. » 23 Dec 2016, 16:45

You could take requisition radio encryption keys and pass them to the SLs alternatively.
CM was obviously inspired by Starcraft: Ghost opening. At least when marines takes too long to deploy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4JSohL ... e=youtu.be
► Show Spoiler

User avatar
Surrealistik
Registered user
Posts: 1870
Joined: 04 Jul 2015, 17:57

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Surrealistik » 23 Dec 2016, 17:42

+1 for obvious reasons.
Sur 'Druglord' Lahzar; Field Engineer, Perpetually Understaffed and Exasperated CMO/Doctor/Researcher
Bando 'Baldboi' Badderson; PFC, Five foot ten of pure bald glory.

Field Engineer Guide
Medbay Guide
Utility PFC Guide

User avatar
KingKire
Registered user
Posts: 893
Joined: 30 May 2016, 11:53

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by KingKire » 27 Dec 2016, 16:01

+1, squad leaders and not the squad should have access to the supply frequency
Gaze upon me,
for I have wandered deep into the ancient tombs of knowledge to which lie madness and sorrow, cleansing a path for all those who walk behind me...


...

But seriously, does uh, anyone know the way out?!


~Furthermore, I consider that Floodlights should no longer be destroyed.~

User avatar
TopHatPenguin
Community Contributor
Community Contributor
Posts: 2383
Joined: 14 Dec 2014, 18:06
Location: Forever Editing The Wiki.
Byond: TopHatPenguin
Contact:

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by TopHatPenguin » 27 Dec 2016, 16:24

Removing the Bo middle man for supplies would be great as it allows streamlined communication, which in turns allows for Squad Leads to have a more direct role in gathering their own supplies and last minute changes would become a lot easier.
Shit cm memes: Image
Image
Image
Image
That guy called Wooki.
Resident Santa.
(THP)

User avatar
Renomaki
Registered user
Posts: 1777
Joined: 22 Jul 2016, 18:26

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Renomaki » 27 Dec 2016, 16:28

I can agree with this, SLs are expected to make a lot of cargo requests, so allowing them a direct link would make things go a lot faster, instead of having to go through command and hoping they remember to ask cargo for what you need.
Sometimes, bravery comes from the most unlikely sources.

An inspirational song for when ye be feeling blue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_zvuPw8xU

User avatar
Szunti
Registered user
Posts: 293
Joined: 10 Dec 2015, 17:18

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Szunti » 27 Dec 2016, 17:35

Renomaki wrote:I can agree with this, SLs are expected to make a lot of cargo requests, so allowing them a direct link would make things go a lot faster, instead of having to go through command and hoping they remember to ask cargo for what you need.
Ideally SL shouldn't make cargo requests except for himself. A competent BO would know what is needed in general and if marines need something they should tell on the squad/medic channel instead of nagging the SL.

BO is much more capable of being the middle man than SL. What typically happens is spec asking for rockets, RO either heard it or not. If he heard it and responds, it's fine. But often they are silent, BO has to find out if there is an RO or cargo tech, whether they are just silent or SSD, if they listen on the radio or not. I don't think SL has time for begging on cargo channel for an answer. He can't send MPs to check it. And he doesn't know anything about the SM explosion that took cargo. Or about the rogue marine that killed the RO because he didn't get the attachments he wanted.

If you don't want a middle man, then CT should hear the squad channels and med channel (cause they make the medicines). If their is no RO it's a good idea to give a command headset to the cargo tech replacing the RO imo.

User avatar
Arachnidnexus
Donor
Donor
Posts: 449
Joined: 04 Sep 2015, 20:50

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Arachnidnexus » 27 Dec 2016, 17:47

Either this or giving CTs a command headset would solve this problem. Giving the CT more channels would probably be a better solution since cargo shouldn't be crippled if the RO is SSD or never joins.

User avatar
apophis775
Host
Host
Posts: 6985
Joined: 22 Aug 2014, 18:05
Location: Ice Colony
Byond: Apophis775
Contact:

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by apophis775 » 28 Dec 2016, 14:16

"Chain of command" should be that the BOs are making the request for cargo, not the SLs directly.

I'm willing to listen to more discussion on this, so stickied for now, but expect it to be denied later unless you can really convince me (or other devs) of this.
ImageImage
flamecow wrote: "unga dunga me want the attachment" - average marine

User avatar
Surrealistik
Registered user
Posts: 1870
Joined: 04 Jul 2015, 17:57

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Surrealistik » 03 Jan 2017, 20:40

Definitely would help streamline a department that desperately needs streamlining and efficiency improvements.
Sur 'Druglord' Lahzar; Field Engineer, Perpetually Understaffed and Exasperated CMO/Doctor/Researcher
Bando 'Baldboi' Badderson; PFC, Five foot ten of pure bald glory.

Field Engineer Guide
Medbay Guide
Utility PFC Guide

User avatar
Lucius Jones
Registered user
Posts: 217
Joined: 18 Jun 2015, 14:35
Location: England is my City
Contact:

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Lucius Jones » 05 Jan 2017, 07:15

eh, -1. This should just be something possible in-game, all you need is a screwdriver and the headsets. Make it a strategy to teach people, and for good SL's, not just implemented.
https://gyazo.com/8052a7a368fb2412808adadd3bcb8e3e
Self proclaimed god tier crusher, just under the main man Tor
also weekend combat queen, as well as a conga crusher too.
https://gyazo.com/02c20e267ab4c559d053ee77587b7708

User avatar
ty55101
Registered user
Posts: 43
Joined: 03 Jan 2017, 12:55
Byond: ty55101

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by ty55101 » 05 Jan 2017, 17:36

-1

It very clearly says on the wiki that SLs are not command staff, so they shouldn't be able to speak on the requisitions channel. The only reason this is needed is because command staff doesn't do as good of a job as they are supposed to at listening to comms. Constantly I see the RO speaking on the command channel with no one answering them so really this would only help a bit since proper communication doesn't happen anyways.

For lowpop rounds where there may not be an RO there isn't that much clutter in the comm channels so I think the BOs and other command staff would be able to relay properly and I know when I am command on lowpop rounds I don't have much trouble with this.
This is how well the CM community understands the actual military.
Image
Times had a fun round in CM: 100
Times cared about winning a round: 20
Stats in signature: 3

User avatar
Shathir
Registered user
Posts: 3
Joined: 04 Jan 2017, 17:44
Byond: Shathir

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Shathir » 05 Jan 2017, 21:29

BOs are supposed to be the middlemens. ROs already get a fuckton of requests piled up, SLs making additional requests would result in useless confusion tbh.

User avatar
Imperator_Titan
Registered user
Posts: 884
Joined: 05 Oct 2016, 13:14
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Byond: Imperator_Titan

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Imperator_Titan » 16 Feb 2017, 12:18

+1, CTs and ROs usually go SSD whenever they can and since most of the time, command doesn't tell req to order stuff, they go SSD much faster.

User avatar
shyshadow
Registered user
Posts: 491
Joined: 03 Jan 2017, 18:19
Location: In a Toaster
Byond: ShyShadow

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by shyshadow » 17 Feb 2017, 16:16

+1 Makes everyone else's lives a lot easier.
Image
^^^^Certified Neckbeard^^^^

User avatar
Jeser
Registered user
Posts: 1119
Joined: 04 Mar 2015, 00:47
Location: Donetsk, Ukraine

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Jeser » 01 Apr 2017, 02:39

I prefer the idea of giving command headsets to CTs. Much better.
Jeser "Fox" Aushwitz.
Jeser believes only in one thing - common sense.

Image
Image
Apop's permission: Click

User avatar
Xurphorus
Registered user
Posts: 234
Joined: 05 Mar 2015, 22:17
Location: The Sulaco Brig
Byond: Xurphorus

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Xurphorus » 09 Apr 2017, 12:29

Although the RO himself has access to all squad channels that does not mean he/she will tap into the multiple squad comms to make sure supplies are gathered correctly and delivered. We're in the era of Baldie Command, Baldie Doctors, and Baldie Engineering/Cargo. Squad Leaders should have the (Option) to tap into the Cargo comms channel if they don't have access to a BO. BOs in my opinion are only the ones who push a button to send supplies down, or just some guy who happens to be relaying information from the CO/XO of what to do. Its the squad leaders have the most work cut out for them since they have to not only organize their own squad, but lead them as well. I say give Cargo the means of sending supplies down themselves or give squad leader vendors cargo headset keys inside of their vendors.

+1

User avatar
solidfury7
Registered user
Posts: 737
Joined: 28 Jul 2016, 20:54

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by solidfury7 » 09 Apr 2017, 12:36

apophis775 wrote:"Chain of command" should be that the BOs are making the request for cargo, not the SLs directly.

I'm willing to listen to more discussion on this, so stickied for now, but expect it to be denied later unless you can really convince me (or other devs) of this.
I totally agree, being a command player.

However I do think this will help a lot during low pop - mediun pop when you usually have one command staff running the whole show,
Character
William 'Jester' Crimson
Roles
CMP
Captain
Staff Officer

User avatar
Clutch
Registered user
Posts: 254
Joined: 08 Jan 2017, 14:42
Byond: bramb23

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Clutch » 10 Apr 2017, 03:29

I play RO quite a bit, ussually i'm toggled into all the squad comms and listen to what they need.
I like the idea but it would pretty much make the BO's useless when it comes to Cargo, i think a nice idea would be giving the CT's radio encryption keys for squads so that if they would want to stay in touch they could just pop in and talk to the squads along with the RO.
Just my two cents
Bwoden Whackers
Image
This is likewise where bramb began saying he lives in albania. They additionally continued pinging me with the albanian banner. They called me female. They called me gay. They said I have down disorder. They called me different names too. Also, bramb said he lives in albania when he professes to live in The Netherlands too. Lying again.

User avatar
UnknownMurder
Registered user
Posts: 2243
Joined: 15 Dec 2014, 08:03
Location: Ascension

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by UnknownMurder » 13 Apr 2017, 10:29

Shathir wrote:BOs are supposed to be the middlemens. ROs already get a fuckton of requests piled up, SLs making additional requests would result in useless confusion tbh.
This.
Image

SpaceFarer
Registered user
Posts: 55
Joined: 03 Dec 2015, 00:57

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by SpaceFarer » 13 Apr 2017, 16:36

+1, this would be a valuable change

Skelton
Registered user
Posts: 58
Joined: 03 Nov 2016, 00:45
Byond: Skelton_UK

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by Skelton » 24 Apr 2017, 08:49

As much as I would love to have access to req directly as an SL I don't think it should become a thing. You still need a middleman to deploy the goods via the Rasp or via the launch pads.

I think it would be far better for BO's to have direct access to a supply request console so that CTs that are overrun with verbal communication receive a paper or digital request that they can check off as they order.

User avatar
OatzAndHoes
Registered user
Posts: 243
Joined: 10 Apr 2016, 12:27

Re: SLs get Req Radio

Post by OatzAndHoes » 09 May 2017, 07:01

apophis775 wrote:"Chain of command" should be that the BOs are making the request for cargo, not the SLs directly.

I'm willing to listen to more discussion on this, so stickied for now, but expect it to be denied later unless you can really convince me (or other devs) of this.
I tend to agree with Apop here for 2 reasons:

1. This is a more true to life way of managing logistics.

2. This allows command to manage their own logistics chain, and prevents SLs from sidestepping the chain of command when they don't get the supplies they like. There may be a perfectly legitimate reason why command hasn't ordered your SADAR ammo crate, but while youre on patrol you might not know that the other squadron needs plastisteel and turrets because the LZ is in danger of being overrun. This prevents SLs from screaming up a storm on Req radio just because their specific crate isn't ordered.

Because of this it's a -1 from me.

Locked