FOB's Of CM Past

[Karmac]

I was totally gonna do an engie guide here but then I remembered I put time and effort into the combat engie guide on the wiki so this place will pretty much remain what it is, an FOB image dump and a place to discuss what do and don't work.

PSA: Flipped tables are not enough to be considered an FOB so if standards could stop doing that, that'd be great.

FOB Image Bank (Warning: Long)

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Up-To-Date FOB Example for LV















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LV-624 Relevant

This one turned out surprisingly well considering it started out as something to just protect medics and wounded, it ended up lasting quite a while and even held out after marines were pushed back, in the end a second wave of marines pushed forward and re-secured it to continue using it as their FOB.


I never was very creative with LZ1 defences but apparently this one worked out pretty well.






In this one you can see I was halfway done reinforcing the outer layer with plasteel when I ran out of time.






















This one was just me and another guy for about half an hour, I had an image of the battlefield about halfway in, but I lost it somehow.

















Arbitrary Hydro Images





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Ice Colony Relevant
John Spartan Murry Edition Snow-Fort (with help from Kailey 'Pinko' Pervert)












Big Red Relevant




Seeing as single tile defense stacking was removed, here's an example of a 'layered' or 'tiered' defense, whatever you want to call it, this should become a more common sight as people realise they're better off spending their resources on bigger, better things:




More to be added.

[Swagile]

Sulaco defence and the nexus middle picture don't count as xenos are dumb and decided to attack your strongest points instead of just aciding the walls (Sulaco) or going through the bottom left gap that was opened in your defences (Nexus).

Everything else is pretty good.

[Karmac]

>implying I wouldn't just adapt to the situation

ok bud

[Swagile]

>implying I wouldn't just adapt to the situation

ok bud

Ive seen too many bad engineers that ive grown hardened to the fact that if there is any hole or would be hole in an engineer's well made defence then you might as well immediately retreat as the false sense of security that such a barricade brings is more dangerous than constantly being vigilant without barricades around you.

[Karmac]

Fixing holes in the wall is part of the job of being an Engineer, if you can't keep your FOB up to scratch while it's being attacked, you need to pick a different role. But that's a completelt justified reaction to be fair. I'm just the kinda guy that goes down with his ship.

[Moon Tune]

How did you get so much plasteel to fortify the LZ1 on ice? Was cargo competant? Is there some kind of source of plasteel on the planet? I would really like to know.

[Karmac]

How did you get so much plasteel to fortify the LZ1 on ice? Was cargo competant? Is there some kind of source of plasteel on the planet? I would really like to know.

LZ1 on Ice has a bunch of useless barricades around it that I dismantle and repurpose, it's very helpful.

[Moon Tune]

LZ1 on Ice has a bunch of useless barricades around it that I dismantle and repurpose, it's very helpful.

That's pretty neat. Never thought of it that way. I imagine you can just fortify the two entry points in the north and then relocate all the barricades in the south.

[Karmac]

That's pretty neat. Never thought of it that way. I imagine you can just fortify the two entry points in the north and then relocate all the barricades in the south.

essentially there are only four areas you need the pre-existing barricades for, the two north entrances and the flanks of the middle walkway to the West. Even then you'll still want to move them around a bit to better suit the defensive.

[Rain7x]

These are pretty nice.

[NoahKirchner]

bad fobs mine are bettr


Noah Kirchner's megafort.
No girls allowed.

[Karmac]

bad fobs mine are bettr


Noah Kirchner's megafort.
No girls allowed.

i gib very/10

[Swagile]

I miss the good Engi forts.

I wish I took a picture, but I was using tables to hold off Crusher charges + boiler bombards by constantly replacing them when they were destroyed at Garage yesterday.

I wish we had more competent engineers .

[Karmac]

I get a lot of complaints from people that tell me engies are just setting up barebones FOB's and then looking at people funny when they ask the engie to improve it or fix the defenses as they break, it makes me want to go back to the role, but I know it won't make anybody else suck less at it.

[Casany]

Recently as an SL I had Shust as my engineer. He may not follow orders that well but he is one hellofa engineer

[Karmac]

Recently as an SL I had Shust as my engineer. He may not follow orders that well but he is one hellofa engineer

Engineers prefer to do their own thing, it usually works better that way, it's how I tried to do it anyways.

[Casany]

Engineers prefer to do their own thing, it usually works better that way, it's how I tried to do it anyways.

The only reason I told him to do anything was because he was overextending. I had ordered alpha to build our FOB in engineering because the Nexus FOB was just horrid. We had 4 people there and he kept trying to expand to tcomms. I finally got him to weld it off though.

[Karmac]

In that circumstance yeah, you don't have the people to hold a fort that big, and I doubt he had the mines to back it up either, but sometimes its nice to try new things, I don't see where Shust normally sets up so I wouldn't be able to tell you if he does that alot or not.

[Casany]

We had only four mines and a single sentry, so I decided the best course of action is to make a two layer wall at the back of engineering and throw my OB back there for when they broke through. It was a great FOB though, and because of it marines won

Engineering is so underused as both a fallback point or an actual FOB

[Karmac]

B U M P

I'm really hoping to see less complaints about engineers flipping some tables and calling it a day in regards to FOB construction.

[Swagile]

Ice Colony

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Missing from this is the plastisteel hidden behind metal false walls, and the forward barricade I made in the docked shuttle that blocked xenos from rushing through there. 80% of this is built my me, the other 20% is the contribution of the turrets by other Engineers and the rack spam. This base covers both sides by 2 walls of plastisteel, reinforced tables, and still gives plenty of space for if the boiler gas gets past BOTH sets of tables and hits you, which is rare but happens. This base is meant to hold about 15-20 marines maximum; anything more and you can't dodge boiler gas adequately.

[Crab_Spider]

Ice Colony

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Missing from this is the plastisteel hidden behind metal false walls, and the forward barricade I made in the docked shuttle that blocked xenos from rushing through there. 80% of this is built my me, the other 20% is the contribution of the turrets by other Engineers and the rack spam. This base covers both sides by 2 walls of plastisteel, reinforced tables, and still gives plenty of space for if the boiler gas gets past BOTH sets of tables and hits you, which is rare but happens. This base is meant to hold about 15-20 marines maximum; anything more and you can't dodge boiler gas adequately.

Ahh, that FoB was pretty kickass, I would totally snipe my way til my death with you again. 10/10

[Swagile]

Ahh, that FoB was pretty kickass, I would totally snipe my way til my death with you again. 10/10

First FOB was much simpler; I had time and plastisteel + metal given to me by Req that round in order to achieve this result. This is basically the better version.

That last stand was great though the round before.

[Karmac]

the perfect example of autism saving lives.

[Karmac]

the perfect example of autism saving lives.