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    I_cut_katsapiy - improper escalation

    Player Report
    Your Byond ID?
    IDK1222222

    Date of Incident
    July 9, 2022

    Your Character Name?
    Pablo Fernandez

    Accused Byond Key(if known):
    I_cut_katsapiy

    Accused Character Name
    LCpl Andrii Melnyk

    Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results)
    12:46 PM

    What rule(s) were broken:
    improper escalation

    Description of the incident:
    I was an engineer in LV-625 and acidentally i flamed myself, then Andrii alpha SG started shooting me activating lethal mode in the process. after that I got revived and i saw Andrii i told him that he was a fucker and started punching him, he in return started shooting me in lethal mode and almost kill me. TDLR andrii shot me twice and manage to kill me once, and it wasnt FF cuz he activated lethal mode

    Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
    You are hit by the armor-piercing smartgun bullet in the chest!
    The weeds begin pulsating wildly and secrete resin in the shape of a resin wall!
    Unknown (as Val 'Waffles' Antonio) has successfully extinguished the fire on Pablo Fernandez!
    You are hit by the smartgun bullet in the chest!
    x3

    Something feels like it shattered in your chest!
    LCpl Pablo Fernandez screams!
    x3

    The shrapnel sticks in the wound!
    You scream in pain as the impact sends shrapnel into the wound!
    Unknown (as Val 'Waffles' Antonio) shakes Pablo Fernandez trying to wake him up!
    You are hit by the smartgun bullet in the chest!
    Your source of light shorts out.
    ... You can almost hear someone talking ...
    DEAD: Ancient Crusher (NO-963-P3) (F) says, "i think its best use is area control and maninulating marien placement for caps"
    PFC Val 'Waffles' Antonio(as Val 'Waffles' Antonio) says, "Huuuuuuh"
    Pablo Fernandez has died to M56B smartgun at the Central Caves from Andrii Melnyk
    DEAD: Ash 'Ashley' Leigh (F) says, "but its funny when it works"
    LCpl Andrii Melnyk says, "Fuck him."

    What resolution are you seeking?
    Ban
    Last edited by ito726; 07-10-2022 at 04:21 PM.

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    Pulling logs for this.

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    Question

    Here are the logs for the incident:
    (First logs pull, please message me at Noodles2#1880 if anything is out of sorts.)



    ACCUSER CKEY: IDK1222222/Pablo Fernandez (JOB: Squad Combat Technician)
    ACCUSEDCKEY: I_cut_katsapiy/Andrii Melnyk (JOB: Squad Smartgunner)

    Pablo was attempting to use a flamer to aid in marines fighting, and accidently flamed Andrii.

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    Andrii, angry, turns off IFF to shoot Pablo for the incident.

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    Andrii shoots Pablo to death.

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    Andrii admitting killing Pablo.


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    Pablo A-Helps the situation.

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    Pablo now (now revived) Comes back and punches Andrii. Andrii immediately returns fire.

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    Pablo uses his flame thrower to fight back lighting Andrii on fire, Andrii returns fire and finishes off Pablo...


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    --END LOGS--
    Last edited by Firecharge123; 07-10-2022 at 08:18 AM. Reason: Removed non associated ckey

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    Rule 10: Lethal Force
    Do not attack another player without a legitimate, explainable roleplay reason that could be applied in a similar, real-life scenario. A fist fight does not suddenly escalate into a gun fight.

    Proper Escalation consists of:
    Fists/General Melee
    Knives/Dangerous Melee
    Lethal Weapons

    Should one defend themselves from grief or improper escalation, the staff handling the matter decides if a punishment is given out and to who.


    The accident with the sentry was unfortunate, but accidental Friendly Fire in CM is a common occurrence, and generally not an acceptable reason for Escalation. We do make every effort to review to make sure that accidentally friendly fire is actually accidental- and while we have limits to what we are able to review, I don't see anything to suggest this was done intentionally.

    The second incident is a very simple case of Improper Escalation.

    As the player doesn't have any previous notes for IE, this will result in a note being added that is a WARNING for IE.

    Please be advised that if you feel you have been griefed, or that someone has improperly escalated a conflict with you in game, you should ahelp and let staff take a look at the situation. Please also note that future incidents may result in a job or server ban.

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