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    �Hitler didn�t do anything wrong� are the stupidest joke in the world, but after reading the logs it doesn�t look anything like holocaust denial or support. Looks like you were gonna jump into an actual discussion On history before the gun was jumped.

    I don�t believe you shoulda been banned for that one

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    Also. Thanks to Elite for helping out in this, this is clearly bullshit and I hope Cipher gets unbanned too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huebone View Post
    I finally got my hands on the logs, and it appears like Winter decided to ban people for the very thing THEY started, they baited a ban on Cipher, here's the evidence.

    Spoiler Spoiler:
    The Nazi's target countless peoples because of their heritage, skin color, sexual orientation, mental and physical state and or the god that they believe in, stripped them of every right and basic decency and then murdered them in the most inhumane and cruel ways possible.

    Support for it or, jokes towards the suffering of others involved in it is inexcusable.
    Last edited by RobBrown4PM; 05-20-2019 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Opinionated comment. Altered to give a better answer

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    Saying the Holocaust was justified in the moment is some braindead shit. You saw I'd just banned someone for literally supporting right wing fascism and the Nazis a moment ago then you butt in to say something positive about the Holocaust, idk what you expected.

    Comparing the Holocaust to anything the Western Allies did is like comparing getting punched in the face to having your whole race genocided. The German crimes we're literally genocide and other things of nightmares. You can't equate that to anything the British or Americans did. So I don't see my comments which were frequently used memes in the anti-wehraboo community (quoting bomber Harris) as anything bad. If you think the bombing of Dresden is comparable to the crimes of the Nazis, then you've been listening to to much Nazi propaganda.

    If this was some smooth brain joke you timed really poorly okay. This doesn't at all need to be a permanent ban. But I wanna make a point here that I'm not allowing pro-holocaust bullshit on our discord as I have zero tolerance towards it. No warnings because just like posting porn in our discord you should know better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterClould View Post
    Saying the Holocaust was justified in the moment is some braindead shit. You saw I'd just banned someone for literally supporting right wing fascism and the Nazis a moment ago then you butt in to say something positive about the Holocaust, idk what you expected.

    Comparing the Holocaust to anything the Western Allies did is like comparing getting punched in the face to having your whole race genocided. The German crimes we're literally genocide and other things of nightmares. You can't equate that to anything the British or Americans did. So I don't see my comments which were frequently used memes in the anti-wehraboo community (quoting bomber Harris) as anything bad. If you think the bombing of Dresden is comparable to the crimes of the Nazis, then you've been listening to to much Nazi propaganda.

    If this was some smooth brain joke you timed really poorly okay. This doesn't at all need to be a permanent ban. But I wanna make a point here that I'm not allowing pro-holocaust bullshit on our discord as I have zero tolerance towards it. No warnings because just like posting porn in our discord you should know better.
    Winter: Allies committed war crimes, but they were good war crimes.

    Winter: Dresden was justified


    Cipher: Lmao

    Cipher: you know what else is justified

    Cipher: Holocaust


    You are delirious. You come into #shitposting and say something like that, then Cipher comes in and throws in some bait. He's not a right wing nazi supporter, he was just messing with you. Then when try to point out the context, you ban me too. None of what I said was pro-nazi at all.

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    Hopping back to the point before the political discussion starts for good - I do believe that both Huebone and Cipher were just shitposting. Nobody was denying anything and literally noone even suggested that "hitler did nothing wrong", the topic was started and fueled by Winterclould himself and as soon as someone showed a different opinion, they were instantly banned with no warnings or questioning whatsoever.

    Shitposting is, after all, shitposting. We as discord mods are not the thought police, I see no rules broken here (unless we want to use rule 1 here, the one with bigotry etc. Although I doubt "Dresden was justified" doesn't fall into that category too). They could've been told to stop. Winterclould could've stopped himself, or at least not start the topic.

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    Just so there's some clarity here, I admit I offered a somewhat opinionated answer in my above post. I have altered it from what it was to give a better answer that is more on point.

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    The ban for both you and Cipher will be lifted since Winter was invested in the discussion you both were banned from, which Discord staff should refrain from doing so. That said, it's often hard to see whether a message like that is real or just a joke. Stay out of trouble in the future. Resolved.

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