Slayer_Dusty - Developer Application (Spriter)

[Moonshanks]

Developer Application

Byond ID?

Slayer_Dusty

Age?

18

Gender?

Male

How would you define yourself? (Coder, Mapper, Spriter):

Wikihelper or N/A

If Coder, what languages?

-

Any previous experience developing with SS13?

Not relevant to my application

Proof of any previous or current work:

Here is a link to my work:

https://imgur.com/gallery/RAeuW3B

Note: all of this work done is for a hobby or personal interest, due to copyright and customer privacy, I cannot share my graphical work while at the photo-studio I worked at, if needed I can post a link to their website.

How well do you know Git?

I used it on projects I have worked on but for large image files I prefer to use sites like dropbox or wetransfer

Your primary job is server development, not policing the server. You may be given Moderator-level of access but you should *not* be invoking any administrative actions unless there are no moderators or Admins online. Do you understand?

Yes

Anything else you'd like to add?

This is an odd application, I am going for a graphical designer slot not a spriter however I didn't know any other way to do this.

I'm looking to improve the wiki by implementing better icons and images in places, as well as replacing old or copyrighted imagery on the wiki/forum. I have worked for a year and a half in a photo-studio and as such I have an in depth knowledge of both Photoshop and other graphical design tools, equally since this photo-studio is a family run business, I have access to the tools and equipment needed for graphical design and digital photo manipulation. As well as this, I have access to professional photography, lighting and backdrop equipment in order to help me provide the best images I can.

I'm looking for a more challenging route for my graphical design and I'm looking to improve my work through work with this group, as the images provided above show, my work has greatly improved since I started however greater challenges would be exciting to me as I get to test my ability and stretch my knowledge.

Hopefully I can help with the wiki and maybe even in-game iconography, logos and photos in order to provide a more aesthetically pleasing experience to consumers.

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Note: this is my second account on the forum I lost full access to my previous account 'Louislouiz' through damage to my previous computer, if you check that accounts history you'll see its linked to the same C-Key and has been a trailmod with this server before.

Furthermore, far more complex and detailed designs can easily be achieved, but I don't illustrate as such

[Moonshanks]

If needed I can post more work, however due to the extremely large amount of work I have done, I simplified the list down to my favorites and, in my opinion, my best work.

[Cakey]

Hey, thanks for your application
While I'm still one of the junior developers and only a mapper, I'd like to throw in my two cents.

First of all, as far as I'm aware while we do need sprites we are also looking for an artist to make us some new lobby art, however in my opinion while the art you've showcased in your album is great, it doesn't really display any relevant material to either of the artwork we will be needing.
Even if I sound stupid in saying this, sprinting is a completely different art process to graphical design and you'd be better off showcasing some sprites you've done if at all, or make some to showcase.
With regards to the other art we need, the same applies; there's definitely a difference in graphical design and illustration.

I really like your portfolio but I think you should show off something more relevant.

Obviously take what I say with a grain of salt as I'm only a junior dev, so anything anyone else in the dev team says overrules my opinion

Thanks!

[Moonshanks]

Hey, thanks for your application
While I'm still one of the junior developers and only a mapper, I'd like to throw in my two cents.

First of all, as far as I'm aware while we do need sprites we are also looking for an artist to make us some new lobby art, however in my opinion while the art you've showcased in your album is great, it doesn't really display any relevant material to either of the artwork we will be needing.
Even if I sound stupid in saying this, sprinting is a completely different art process to graphical design and you'd be better off showcasing some sprites you've done if at all, or make some to showcase.
With regards to the other art we need, the same applies; there's definitely a difference in graphical design and illustration.

I really like your portfolio but I think you should show off something more relevant.

Obviously take what I say with a grain of salt as I'm only a junior dev, so anything anyone else in the dev team says overrules my opinion

Thanks!

I don't know if I made this clear, however I am no applying for a spriter slot, I cannot do sprite work that well

Instead I'm applying for a slot which doesn't exist, I am applying as you say for graphical design for the wiki and forum I hope that serves to clear up any confusion.

[Deanthelis]

First of all: Thank you for taking the time to apply.

Spriter is a very specific role. It carries with it specific powers, specific responsibilities, and specific permissions; namely, all of those necessary to add and modify in-game sprite art assets.

Because of the skills involved in spritework, there is often, though not always an overlap with more conventional art; see Nicboone's fabulous lobby art for an example of this.

If you aren't interested in doing that, that's perfectly fine; however, my domain, and this application section, essentially boils down to the roles that have direct access to our codebase.

I positively relish the idea of having more artists contributing to our game and our community's resources as a whole. Please don't misconstrue what I am about to say; I absolutely want to work with you.

The dev team is not a place for this, as I see no reason to include a graphic designer in the discussions pertaining to game balance and in-game assets, nor give a graphic designer the permissions in-game that come with the Spriter position or something similar.

However, there is absolutely a place for you here. I would like to fully refer you to Tophatpenguin, our Wiki Maintainer, to produce logos and similar assets for the wiki itself and our forums. Tophatpenguin by nature of his responsibilities has access to the dev team's Slack and Discord channels and server permissions, and I would like to suggest that you work directly with him, or directly with me via Discord PM, as need arises.

In essence, if there's something you'd like to create for an in-game asset like a paperwork logo, you'd mention it to me, NethIafins, or any Senior Dev (when I get around to promoting some).

If there's something you'd like to create for the wiki, the website, or any other out-of-game community resource, you'd discuss it with Tophat.

This is the first time since I assumed this position that I've had such an application, and I am unaware of any previous instance that set a precedent for it, so I'd like to proceed in this manner until more applications of this sort crop up and I feel a need to formally, rather than informally, create a role with specific permissions and responsibilities.

Feel free to respond here or by PM.

[Moonshanks]

nor give a graphic designer the permissions in-game that come with the Spriter position[/B] or something similar.

Thanks for taking the time to look at a application outside of your domain

I totally agree, having access to the code base would be nonsensical, and after talking in the discord and with Tophat for a brief period, it seemed that the only good way to make an application would be through the forum. I realize I haven't cleared up what it is I'm looking for, simply put, I wish to help design the wiki and submit graphical design which would occasionally be accompanied with HTML or other code languages so that it has the desired effect on the wiki. This would be easier to do so if I knew the changes coming up to the wiki or in game, however having run my own dev team I understand and totally respect the issues with handing out information like that. As such am totally okay if it is denied, however, if it is my designs will come out post implementation, not with implementation of new in-game assets.

TL;DR: honestly just my name somewhere official as wiki helper or something so I have tangible recognition I could use in future projects for any group would be great, this seemed like the best place to ask for that.

[Triiodine]

Hello Slayer_Dusty, apologies for waiting so long on the response to your application. Due to the non-standard nature of your application in regards to the applied role (Spriter) we have had to delay the discussion until a proper meeting.

However, you have come to the same consensus that we as a team have. Currently there is no place development wise for someone of your skills and interests.

However, applications for specialist roles are almost (always) open, and should you wish to traditionally apply as a Spriter, by all means, we encourage you to do so.

You are also well welcomed to contribute to the development of the wiki and it's maintenance. I will direct you to TopHatPenguin for such work, I'm sure they'll appreciate the interest and assistance.

With that, your application has been declined. Best of luck with your design and logos in future projects, I personally hope to see some interesting designs on the Wiki in the future.