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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_bickie View Post
    Sorry I'm a little distracted with this marine. I slashed him like 10 times but he hasn't even slowed because marines apparently don't feel pain or even have human anatomy. But I guess it's a failsafe from the devs so metarines won't leave the game unhappy. After all, we are all here for metarine's fun, not the other way around.
    How strange that it is really other way around. Benos don't slow down at all if they are shoot. Beno at 1% HP is as nimble as beno at 100% HP. Aiming hand and complaining that runner can't kill a marine in heavy armor, while rav can do it in 3 slashes is so elegant. Almost like 60 - 40 beno winrate is just for combat marines to have fun.

    *thonk*

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeniyEvgeniy View Post
    Well.
    How much the tank weigh? I think a lot.
    And tank easily push marine and drive on it. Only 3-6 brute damage.
    How about to make this.. deathly?
    Imagine, tank which drive on marine, breaking bones, destroying organs or just gibbing marine
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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    How strange that it is really other way around. Benos don't slow down at all if they are shoot. Beno at 1% HP is as nimble as beno at 100% HP. Aiming hand and complaining that runner can't kill a marine in heavy armor, while rav can do it in 3 slashes is so elegant. Almost like 60 - 40 beno winrate is just for combat marines to have fun.

    *thonk*
    Imagine a tank at 1% track health being as nimble as a tank at 100% track health. Imagine a marine recovering to 100% after dying and being covered in 200+ acid damage. It's not like they would need skin grafts and months if not years of recovery. Imagine marines charging in obvious suicide rushes because they know they will be de-fibbed.

    We don't have to imagine it. Marines aren't human, they are some kind of genetically altered swarm weapon devised by USCM High Command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_bickie View Post
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    Gameplay > Lore/Realism.
    Gameplay = Balance + X
    Defib = Xenos Mad

    You called tank "nimble"? Good joke.
    Death from fairly weak acid? Future Medicine baby! I don't see You complaining about unrealistic Hivemind that doesn't even have any drawbacks of a hivemind and is basically Fantasy thing more than it is Sciencie Fiction.

    Imagine benos charging in fire just to drag one marine, because they know they can just run away, extinguish itself, lie on a weed shit for a minute and be combat ready, while marine might be even burned so much that Advanced Burn kits and multiple defib attempts won't be able to lower it to 200 dmg treshold.

    We don't have to imagine it. Benos aren't even a bit belivelable, they are some kind of sick fantasy about having bigger power than other players devised by CM13 Benomains.

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    Tank shouldnt hurt marines if they run them over. They should give marines a buff that make them more badass because they got run over by a tank and didnt die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    Gameplay > Lore/Realism.
    Gameplay = Balance + X
    Defib = Xenos Mad

    You called tank "nimble"? Good joke.
    Death from fairly weak acid? Future Medicine baby! I don't see You complaining about unrealistic Hivemind that doesn't even have any drawbacks of a hivemind and is basically Fantasy thing more than it is Sciencie Fiction.

    Imagine benos charging in fire just to drag one marine, because they know they can just run away, extinguish itself, lie on a weed shit for a minute and be combat ready, while marine might be even burned so much that Advanced Burn kits and multiple defib attempts won't be able to lower it to 200 dmg treshold.

    We don't have to imagine it. Benos aren't even a bit belivelable, they are some kind of sick fantasy about having bigger power than other players devised by CM13 Benomains.
    Marine medicine is fantasy not sci-fi. Otherwise how could Bicardine magical drag a marine back together from critical to full health. It couldn't. Xenos are believable as marine medicine and equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolate_bickie View Post
    Marine medicine is fantasy not sci-fi. Otherwise how could Bicardine magical drag a marine back together from critical to full health. It couldn't. Xenos are believable as marine medicine and equipment.
    https://www.nownovel.com/blog/differ...ience-fiction/

    "Science fiction deals with scenarios and technology that are possible or may be possible based on science. Some science fiction such as far-future space opera or time travel stories may seem implausible, but they are still not beyond the realm of scientific theory. On the other hand, fantasy general deals with supernatural and magical occurrences that have no basis in science."

    Hmmm... Medicine that works wonders? Well, it is medicine, medicines do work in our world, they are not BYOND the realm of scientific theory. Who says Bicardine and other meds aren't like for example a nanites? Retro-futuristic micro machines, fairly primitive (in comparsion to examples in other media) but still doing its job. Maybe it works with conjuction with some fast Stem Cell treatment? I say: Neatly Sci-Fy.

    Hmmm... Beno hivemind that is instant, has no drawbacks of IRL hiveminds, have not even a single similarity to IRL hiveminds, Pheromones that for some reason make already a Bio-Weapon benos even stronger (which is simply stupid, benos aren't human, what "smell" can do to beno to make it more armored? Their brains most likely don't reduce their own strenght on purpose like human brain does etc). Lying on the one tile of weeds (that might be cut off from the rest) can heal beno faster than any marine drug could.
    Basically most benos are bigger than a human, and they all can fit inside small atmos pipe that marine can unwrench and put inside his backpack. From where benos get material to produce eggs, acid etc? From standing on weeds. From where those weeds get this? Magic... Makes you think.

    Hmmm... Who is more magical? Human with high-tech, or "Not even a similarity to Hivemind, but Hivemind telepathic monster that can shrink in size at will, create things out of thin air, be as nimble at the brink of death as it was perfectly healthy"?
    Question that humanity will never answer.
    Last edited by CABAL; 08-28-2019 at 03:39 AM.

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    bicardine is made out of chemicals its not nanobots. Everything about marine medicine is fantasy in this game. Go watch any movie and not 1 single person gets brought back from the dead. Even the synthetics get repaired way too easy in this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ View Post
    bicardine is made out of chemicals its not nanobots. Everything about marine medicine is fantasy in this game. Go watch any movie and not 1 single person gets brought back from the dead. Even the synthetics get repaired way too easy in this game.
    Please show me where there is even a hint that there is a "Queen Mother" in movies. Nowhere, we play video game where time is the "money" and most things require to be atleast belivelable that something works. No medicine grows back limbs, but it does heal a bit faster.

    Marine Medicine is Sci-Fy, benos in CM are fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CABAL View Post
    Please show me where there is even a hint that there is a "Queen Mother" in movies. Nowhere, we play video game where time is the "money" and most things require to be atleast belivelable that something works. No medicine grows back limbs, but it does heal a bit faster.

    Marine Medicine is Sci-Fy, benos in CM are fantasy.
    Im not arguing anything about xenos. Just think its funny that you think marines aren't fantasy too. People don't come back very often from the dead. These are people that drown or choke or something like that. Not people that have their guts hanging out of their stomach from getting slashed by an alien with a sword arm or getting shot in the head by an anti tank sniper rifle. Argue all you want but medicine in CM is totally fantasy. Pills don't do shit to heal your body in 5 minutes whether its now or 500 years in the future.

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