[06:43:11]ADMIN: Dorkkeli has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver).
[06:43:13]ADMIN: Dorkkeli/(Young Lurker (526)) admin ghosted.
[06:43:13]ADMIN: @
Dorkkeli/(Young Lurker (526)) jumped to Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)
[06:43:19]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): why so
[06:44:39]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): he pushed me into the turret fire, which killed me, calls me retarded when I ask him and tell me I should stayed dead or something so I fired on him and he killed me, which is okay but then he was shooting up my corpse and trying to behead me
[06:44:51]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): sorry for that paragraph
[06:45:10]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Why did he push you into the turrets LOF?
[06:45:22]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): no idea
[06:45:44]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): he fucked me up good though
[06:46:11]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->XXXX/(Adam Kruger): Hey, why did you push Ellie into the Turrets LOF and attempted to behead her corpse`?
[06:46:15]ADMIN: Dorkkeli has used 'Mark' on the Adminhelp from Rors/(Adam Kruger).
[06:46:36]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): i didn't pushed her on the sentries
[06:47:03]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->XXXX/(Adam Kruger): Why does she claim that then?
[06:47:10]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I would like to know why he pushed me into the turrets when I was hiding though, because that's what started it all
[06:47:12]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): i tried to pull her out of the LZ when she started getting shot
[06:47:28]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): because she is salty and cant admit that what she did was stupid?
[06:48:28]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->XXXX/(Adam Kruger): Alright. I'm talking with her right now. Please, in one PM, explain the situation from the start to finish.
[06:48:52]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Why did you retaliate by shooting him up?
[06:49:04]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): because he killed me
[06:49:17]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): 100% on purpose
[06:49:40]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): by turrests, not the second time
[06:49:45]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): I'll be looking into your interactions via the logs. Please, in one PM, explain the situation from start to finish.
[06:50:35]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : god fucking damnit the IG server logs are not opening again.
[06:50:50]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : no, i need their talk logs
[06:51:00]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : to see if there was buildup to this situation
[06:51:07]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): She walked into the LZ as a survivor, ok, but the alamo's sentries we're active and they shot her, then i tried to pull her out of the LZ but she died and i pulled her corpse to the nexus and dropped her on a safe distance from the DS, she got revived and came back, she said that i pushed her into the sentries and started shooting me with a pulse rifle, i shot her back and killed her, then i died, and here we are
[06:51:51]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->XXXX/(Adam Kruger): Alright. Thanks. I will be digging through the logs, please be patient.
[06:51:59]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): ok
[06:52:48]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : i need to relog fast, if either of them pm or send ahelps, relay to me
[06:53:14]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): i need to relog fast because my admintools are borked, please hold on answering untill i reply back.
[06:55:39]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : finally
[06:56:24]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): okay go ahead, sorry bout that.
[06:56:38]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): okay one sec
[06:59:56]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): Okay I was attacked by a runner and it broke my groin, I went to lz one to get a medic and got patched up while I was there the DS come and the turret deployed, I ran into cover and adam runs out and pushes me out of cover into the open killing me and the says I'm retarded and puches me, then drags me away from the medics running to me, he dragged me to the center nexus and then the same medic that fix me the first time got to me and pulled me back, healed me ect, I got up and asked Adam why the killed me/pushed me into the turrets and he says I'm a retard again or something so I fired on him Because IC and from my persectiv he wanted tro kill me. After he kills me inself defense which is fine, he shoots up my corpse and knifed me a lot to make me unrevivable while the medic was defibbing me
[07:01:04]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Alright. Hold on.
[07:10:13]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Alright, Ellie. After cross referencing your testimony, Krugers testimony, each players' notes, and the server logs several times, which include the shooting, LOOC comments, punching, dragging, IC talk and emotes, and does NOT include pushing player character via movement, I have come to the conclusion that Kruger did not infact maliciously push you into the turrets line of fire, but instead tried to save you from the turret fire afterwards.
[07:11:14]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): hold Up
[07:11:21]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I'm not a marine though
[07:12:01]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I'm a survivor, can't they be hostile?
[07:12:05]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Indeed, you are a survivor. But you were NOT overtly hostile upon first contact, and since turncoating is not allowed, this counts as improper escalation.
[07:12:27]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): oh alright? but it was in self defense
[07:13:52]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): You CAN either be:
[07:14:43]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->XXXX/(Adam Kruger): Dont worry, you have not been forgotten, I am talking to Weaver, I will come back soon.
[07:15:02]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): okay where can I appeal this note ECT at then please?
[07:15:15]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): ECT?
[07:15:21]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): the ban?
[07:15:21]ADMIN: PM: XXXX/(Adam Kruger)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): ok
[07:15:44]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): it's a 3 hour one so I don't think I can appeal it but the note
[07:16:01]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): You cannot typically appeal notes, except in the case of blatant unprofessionalism from the moderator who issued it, typically through a staff report.
[07:16:21]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): well I don't want to staff report you lol
[07:16:36]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I just feel there was more evidence tthan you say
[07:16:58]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): My suggestion is that you are more carefull about retaliating in the future and try to follow the proper escalation steps.
[07:17:34]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): alright I guess I very much misunderstood survivor ROE
[07:18:04]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): That is all that I could find via notes, and since there arent logs generated when you push someone via movement, I cannot find evidence for malicious actions on Adams part.
[07:19:03]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): And as stated in Msay, notes are not really a form of punishment, its a tool for staff to look at past interactions with you and if you have done similar offences in the past. To give guidelines on how to punish/handle the situation.
[07:19:14]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): yea I need to record, I've been meaning to for a while but anyways I was behind a floodlight and he did ran and push me into the open I know you weren't there so
[07:19:50]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): like harming intent push.bodyblock
[07:21:03]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Actually. Ellie, you have a ton of retaliatory notes and a few for improper escalation.. I might have to rethink the punishment for this.
[07:21:33]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Want to see your notes?
[07:21:36]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): well I'm def gonna report that
[07:21:49]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I've seen my notes
[07:22:25]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): As said, I am reconsidering your potential punishment. You have a ton of notes on similar incidents, and it seems that you have not infact learned from them, and you are not a new player.
[07:22:41]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I'm ready for my original punishment if you really thing I crossed the line
[07:23:07]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): but I don't think it's fair you're gonna punish me harder
[07:25:20]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I've been playing marine no problem since I came back, I have been killed FF'd to death ECT PLENTY and done nothing back, I only fired on him BC I honestly believed it was okay as a survior in self defense, I even originally ahelped this otherwise this wouldn't even be happening
[07:25:22]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Alright. Take a look at your notes for reference, and take into account our usual policy of giving a warning for the first timers, then a 3h ban, 1d, 3d, 7d. You have gotten slaps on the wrists mostly. LINK REMOVED FOR PRIVACY
[07:26:25]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : oh the other dude DC'd.
[07:26:36]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): these are all minor and way out of date between eachother
[07:26:38]ADMIN: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) jumped to XXXX/(Adam Kruger)
[07:27:37]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): All relevant cases have happened in the same year, which is an extremely small timescale when talking about these kinds of incidents.
[07:28:43]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I play daily for many hours a day, and I don't understand waht you mean by that I've been told note only count for a month or so
[07:28:52]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): what*
[07:30:39]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): No. Notes count for around a year, realisticly, depending on the offence. YOU, should know better, and after receiving multiple, multiple warnings and having been given multiple chances to correct your course of actions, you have failed to show improvements in keeping your cool in retaliatory situations.
[07:34:49]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): You have six notes of relevancy to this case, all that have been minor slaps to the wrist. And from what I can see, you have indeed failed to improve your actions, and I will be issuing a three day ban for this incident, and a warning for any future incidents with the survivor role. Yes, this is a harsh punishment, but at the moment, I see it as the only way for you to have a chance to improve your behaviour in general. If you feel that this was unjust, feel free to report my actions in the forums.
[07:34:56]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): a year is a long time and this server is only what three years old, I really don't know because I just started like a year ago, but anyways all my similar notes are as a marine and not in selfdefense, I have no way to prove he killed me accidently/on purpose since I have no recordings but be dragged me away from a medic and then made me unrevivable, I fired on him because he pushed me into live turret fire and all he had to say was I was a retard. So it was intent to kill/ harm from him
[07:35:29]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): He will be deal't with seperately.
[07:35:55]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): I think I will I'm sorry, but I don't think this is right
[07:36:49]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Related to that, you infact called them
[07:37:22]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Go right ahead. I will be issuing the ban shortly, if you have anything else to add, please do so now.
[07:37:41]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): no that's okay I'll talk to you on the forums
[07:39:13]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): so it's a staff report I need to make right?
[07:39:27]ADMIN: PM: Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver)->Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)): or would this be a ban appeal?
[07:39:35]ADMIN: MOD: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526)) : someone Pm them yes, im writing the ban reason right now
[07:39:57]ADMIN: PM: Grimreaperx15/(Ysabel Buttersworth)->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Yes, you need to make a Staff Report if you believe Dorkkeli acted improperly.
[07:42:57]ADMIN: PM: Dorkkeli/(Mature Runner (526))->Trevoriousdafox/(Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver): Improper escalation /// As a survivor, shot up a marine for allegedly pushing them into the DS' turrets line of fire. Proceeded to call them idiots via LOOC and shot the marine, who promptly returned fire towards Ellie.
[07:43:24]ADMIN: dorkkeli has banned trevoriousdafox|Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: Improper escalation /// As a survivor, shot up a marine for allegedly pushing them into the DS' turrets line of fire. Proceeded to call them idiots via LOOC and shot the marine, who promptly returned fire towards Ellie. This ban is lengthy, not just for this incident in particular, but for the large amount of relevant notes, which have only resulted in slaps on the wrist, as notes or short bans. Take this time to ponder if you have to change your attitude in the game, and chill out. Do not retaliate to players because you "have a feeling that they are being malicious". Feel free to appeal on the forums, or to file a staff report if you feel this was unjust.