2020/05/30: [03:27:21]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): Queenie. As funny as I find this. Y'all need to back off. We told you several times to now, don't make me game end you.
2020/05/30: [03:27:33]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): You're joking, right?
2020/05/30: [03:28:23]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): Serious as a shark attack. You were told multiple times, both with QM messages and with XOOC not to rush the LZ. Which you did anyway.
2020/05/30: [03:28:49]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): 1. How is it a rush when marines have landed and they failed to push out? 2. Marines do this all the time, how come they never get an earful?
2020/05/30: [03:29:48]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): 1. You never gave them a chance to leave.
2020/05/30: [03:30:36]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): How is it a seperate issue? You could easily enforce this same sort of punishment on the CO for letting it happen. I didn't tell my xenos to fortify LZ2. I told them to regroup at medical to fight. They fought, they won, and now I just want to get the round over with.
2020/05/30: [03:33:11]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): Look man. I'm gonna be real simple.
2020/05/30: [03:33:45]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): Fine. Tell me who made the decision. I'll report them.
2020/05/30: [03:34:42]ADMIN: HELP: TimesAndPlaces/(Mature Crusher (BE-687)): Yo, why do we have to fall back? No one tells marines to stop when they rush the hive fast - heard by 6 non-AFK staff.
2020/05/30: [03:34:49]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): JarekTheRaptor.
2020/05/30: [03:38:13]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): At the end of the day, Jarek's decision came at the fact there were T3s at the LZ on landing, which is in fact a violation of the rules, but the issue really came when you blatantly disobeyed an order to stop and joined in yourself. That's where the dispute is coming from. He doesn't care if the marines get assblasted, he just took issue with the aforementioned factors.
2020/05/30: [03:39:46]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687)): Two seperate issues my guy. We don't condon either side rushing like that, but we stop what we can.
2020/05/30: [03:39:55]ADMIN: PM: JarekTheRaptor/(Elder Praetorian (HE-105-L1))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): Right, Philips done a good job but you seem to take issue with my ruling, so if you have any problems, I'm right here to answer them.
2020/05/30: [03:40:06]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen)->JarekTheRaptor/(Elder Praetorian (HE-105-L1)): Answer them in the report.
2020/05/30: [03:40:48]ADMIN: PM: TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687))->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): I am yet to see marines getting punished for rushing. Moreover, CO/XO making bad decision with LZ2 on Ice (known bad spot) should be an IC issue. Not xenos fault they landed right next to hive.
2020/05/30: [03:41:10]ADMIN: PM: JarekTheRaptor/(Elder Praetorian (HE-105-L1))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Queen): I see, I don't need to drag this out any further then.
2020/05/30: [03:41:18]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687)): I enforce the rules, I don't make them man.
2020/05/30: [03:42:03]ADMIN: PM: TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687))->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): Last round was just a good OB, no one was told to fall back and no one complained, unlike now. You know why?
2020/05/30: [03:43:59]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687)): Marines don't parachute into the hive and start lighting shit up with flamethrowers and grenades. They push to that point. While that can still be problematic in it's own right, it is entirely different to marines landing and literally being assaulted by T3s right off the bat with no chance to entrench themselves or get ready.
2020/05/30: [03:45:58]ADMIN: PM: TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687))->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): Again, marines landed next to the hive. IF they landed on LZ1, nothing would have happened. This is just IC issue of bad decision by Command. There is no reason to tell xenos to manually fall back to help marines. ERT would have been much better solution to this, instead of manual OOC intervention.
2020/05/30: [03:48:10]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687)): Look my guy. I don't make the rules. I enforce them. You're welcome to take this discussion up with someone else if you'd like.
2020/05/30: [03:48:29]ADMIN: PM: TimesAndPlaces/(Elder Crusher (BE-687))->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): Ye, I will make forum thread
2020/05/30: [04:12:59]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Empress): We're aware. That was a seperate issue. And I just want to tell you, upon further review of the incident, I've decided to issue a job ban for Queen. The whole 'telling the QM to fuck off' and then ignoring XOOC was not acceptable behavior. We don't tolerate xenos disobeying the Queen and we definitely don't appreciate the Queen telling the IC personification of the admins to eat shit when we're issuing orders in an IC manner.
2020/05/30: [04:14:34]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Empress)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): Never told him to eat shit, I questioned the logic of a very stupid action. When you push an agenda ICly, trying to railroad players, don't be surprised when they choose to do something else.
2020/05/30: [04:15:47]ADMIN: PM: GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Empress)->KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G)): If xenos are violating a rule, tell them that it's a rule violation. Don't try to disguise it as Queen Mother trying to give them a fighting chance.
2020/05/30: [04:16:35]ADMIN: PM: KingPhilipIII/(Young Runner (DO-391-G))->GoliathTheDespoiler/(Elder Empress): We typically use QM to influence the round in an IC manner. It doesn't matter if you don't like our railroading. You as the Queen should certainly not be undermining that authority. We shouldn't need to punish every incident with mass sleeps and punishments galore. A verbal 'stop it' should suffice.