Discussion about TANK at its current state.

[kooarbiter]

aaaand now it's a lategame thing, hopefully it will return to its godlike status soon

[Boersgard]

I'm honestly surprised CM had any vehicles to begin with, and even more surprised that they actually work without being absolutely clunky and awful.

In any case the recent removal of the tank from the game should've been coupled with APC buffs so the VC crew aren't just completely invalidated and worthless (instead of mostly invalidated and worthless), but when do we ever get sensible decisions like that around here?

And sure, the tank is still "in" the game, but it went from a 1/20 games deal to a 1/100 games deal; for all intents and purposes its gone. It will not surprise me whatsoever if you'll be able to play CM for weeks if not months straight now without seeing the tank once.

[LilPenpusher]

I'm honestly surprised CM had any vehicles to begin with, and even more surprised that they actually work without being absolutely clunky and awful.

In any case the recent removal of the tank from the game should've been coupled with APC buffs so the VC crew aren't just completely invalidated and worthless (instead of mostly invalidated and worthless), but when do we ever get sensible decisions like that around here?

And sure, the tank is still "in" the game, but it went from a 1/20 games deal to a 1/100 games deal; for all intents and purposes its gone. It will not surprise me whatsoever if you'll be able to play CM for weeks if not months straight now without seeing the tank once.

Let's not forget that the way it currently works is that the original VC, as in the people who unlocked the timelock for VC and CONSCIOUSLY DECIDED to roll for manning a vehicle, will not even be the ones to man the tank if Command does unlock it.

Req gets 2 VC kits, which a PFC can use to become a VC. Those PFC VC then proceed to the vehicle bay, pull the tank up, equip it, and deploy. If you play VC, you will unironically NEVER play Tank anymore. Literally. The only way is if you somehow insisted that "BUT WE WANT TO DRIVE THE TANK THOUGH!!!!" and switched with the PFC crew, and had them deploy to take over the APC. But that's not gonna happen.

Also, you're putting random ass PFC in control of the fucking tank. Those people might never have steered a vehicle before, let alone the tank. The fact is that VCs who like the tank are cucked forever, and that nobody will even know how the fucking tank works and plays anymore in a few, because it's never deployed anymore. So when it does get bought and used, it's a disaster.

[Boersgard]

Let's not forget that the way it currently works is that the original VC, as in the people who unlocked the timelock for VC and CONSCIOUSLY DECIDED to roll for manning a vehicle, will not even be the ones to man the tank if Command does unlock it.

Req gets 2 VC kits, which a PFC can use to become a VC. Those PFC VC then proceed to the vehicle bay, pull the tank up, equip it, and deploy. If you play VC, you will unironically NEVER play Tank anymore. Literally. The only way is if you somehow insisted that "BUT WE WANT TO DRIVE THE TANK THOUGH!!!!" and switched with the PFC crew, and had them deploy to take over the APC. But that's not gonna happen.

Also, you're putting random ass PFC in control of the fucking tank. Those people might never have steered a vehicle before, let alone the tank. The fact is that VCs who like the tank are cucked forever, and that nobody will even know how the fucking tank works and plays anymore in a few, because it's never deployed anymore. So when it does get bought and used, it's a disaster.

Now of course - people on this development team recognize that the tank has been removed from the game and will change how this all works right?

hahahaha

[LilPenpusher]

Now of course - people on this development team recognize that the tank has been removed from the game and will change how this all works right?

hahahaha

Walter when people point out major issues: "Oh no! Anyway..."

[GDIS Pathe]

Tank is bad, therefore, less tank = good

[lanche]

Can't really sum up all the arguments so have this gitlab instead, it's still relevant.




awooga

[ChainsawMullet]

I'm glad tank has been effectively removed from the game.

Now if only APC and truck could get the same treatment.

[LilPenpusher]

I'm glad tank has been effectively removed from the game.

Now if only APC and truck could get the same treatment.

Trucks are unironically solely grief machines. You don't even have an excuse for those shitty things as a dev. They just outright ruin frontlines by rping as speedy gonzales and pushing people around willy-nilly. FUCK trucks

[CABAL]

Fine choice dev, fine choice. Removal of tank was impossible, because some grease code monkey would cry that thing he worked so hard on would be removed, so you put it behind techweb, so that nobody in their right mind picks it, thus effectively removing the tank.

Eat the cake and have the cake, smart.