Sorry meant like a softwhitelist, whitelist go first and if no whitelist players rolling queen then anyone else. Otherwise if there was a whitelist it should be very easy and have virtual no RP elements besides stuff like what is a tall? And that is just to see if they ever play xeno.
need to whitelist xeno at this point. 90% of xeno players are terrible not just queen. Pointless to even complain about queen anymore.
Oh god if we did that we would had no one using the burrowed. Literally would go through like 10 queens because the first queen was sitting on 40 burrowed and couldn't pop any more larva out.Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ
The problem with the idea of whitelisting queens the same way you might whitelist CO is that unlike CO, there is no role that approaches Queen in the xeno gameplay. The XO/RO/CE/CMP/CMO/SO roles all provide some manner of command experience and help absorb useful knowledge a good CO would have at not only how capable the people in their command are, but the options they can pursue to make best use of their resources.
For Queen, there is no sub role that has similiar game-play or the Queen can offload tasks and responsibilities too. Lore wise, Praetorians should be this but because of their unusual placement in the evolution tree they aren't in line to become Queens to begin with and most of their abilities and game play differs too much to be of any use. So unlike Marines, where multiple people per round can gain better understanding of not only their role but how it fits into the Chain of Command and how a good CO would instruct them to operate, only one player (at a time) in a Xeno round gets any real idea at how the Queen is supposed to act and direct the hive.
The fact that the replacement for the Queen if she dies comes directly from the T1s only compounds this problem, it's like if the CO dies or gets relieved of duty so the first PFC to raise their hand gets to become the next CO, not only where they just at the bottom of the totem pole while the former commander was active, but there is no guarantee they have any understanding on what they are supposed to do and only took the role because it's vital for their faction and nobody else wanted it or was able to take it.
The soft solution for this is to make a subqueen role that has some of the queens abilities and functions, and make them viable candidates for the Queen to pass extra responsibility. Ideally, Praetorian would just be moved from Defender tree to Drone Tree (we'd have to shuffle a few species around probably, or cut some and buff others to compensate) and tweaking their gameplay to give them queen like abilities or even allowing the queen to organize other xenos under a Praetorian in something akin to squads so the Prae can directly command her particular minions and be a more direct instrument for the Queen's will to be carried out.
Praetorians being able to have other xenos assigned to them would be neat. It would allow for a little more coordination, especially if the xenos got a leader indicator like Marines have. I'm not sure how similar praetorian play is to queen gameplay though. If it's similar enough then it might help to allow praetorians to evolve into Queens as well as drones. Maybe they keep some of their maturity when they evolve too, since they were already a T3 and are basically mini Queens.
I do see how that assigning xenos to leaders could make the sides a little too similar though. That's basically giving xenos squad leaders, and they don't really have that. They're a swarm, and assigning leadership is just us trying to rationalize how they work. I'm also not too sure how similar queen and praetorian gameplay is, having never played either. I would have assumed that they're very different, but comments in this thread say otherwise.
Maybe with the new building system drones can "evolve" into something like a submind that is stationairy but can dish out weak heals and pheros like a queen and act sort of like an XO/SO with spectating and commanding
We absolutely do not need this. One would think this is obvious by itself, but if that were to happen the number of xeno players would drop to zero extremely fast.
At that point, why not throw the xenos out as a faction completely and make HvH events the norm?
yall dont know what hyperbole is
Hyperbole? You're being called out for being salty, just simmer down.
Ok bruh
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