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    Quote Originally Posted by Oatzandhoes View Post
    >and the staff had to bwoink them telling them to knock it off

    This is honestly the part of the story which bothers me the most. Why are we punishing good players for being good? The Lurker managed to accomplish something most lurker mains only dream of. He had the perfect combo of being a robust lurker with an unrobust crew. Why punish him for almost single handedly winning the round. This should be a legendary achievement that should be celebrated, not punished.
    It's not legendary. Nearly anyone could do it. Just camp in vents, don't take risk, find one/two/three crewmember with pistols at best, retreat when you are wounded to heal on weeds and here you go.
    More than year ago lurker was for unrobust players. You could achieve the same results with drone and it was impressive, becouse it required a lot of skill.

    It's like with Preds and Synths. Their power is too great to be let loose, so they have rules they have to obey. Lurker isn't that OP against armored marines, but he is OP against peashooter crew.
    Why we are punishing preds for going total murderboing? If they are robust with cloak and plasmacaster, why they are punished for it? Why synths are punished for starting fights? If synth player is robust, then let him loose on the hive with machete and riot shield. Then lets celebrate it.
    Shipside is supposed to be for RP, for people who don't enjoy fighting benos and you want to cut their fun with Elder Lurker (69) who posses two braincells and will run from any more armoured crew becouse vents are his domain.

    Again: Wiping out Alamyer crew as a lurker isn't very hard. By being a "pussy" anyone could achieve that.
    Try to do it with caste that can't fit into vents. If you menage to do that, this is worth celebrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oatzandhoes View Post
    >and the staff had to bwoink them telling them to knock it off

    This is honestly the part of the story which bothers me the most. Why are we punishing good players for being good? The Lurker managed to accomplish something most lurker mains only dream of. He had the perfect combo of being a robust lurker with an unrobust crew. Why punish him for almost single handedly winning the round. This should be a legendary achievement that should be celebrated, not punished.
    It's not impressive. Right now any Lurker that heals on Almayer without weeds present is abusing an exploit with the offweed regen keystone mutator to gain an edge in a situation that's already set up to heavily favor them (a large, mostly empty ship with most people lacking firearms). If this was a Marine player, they'd be noted and potentially tempbanned for powergaming/exploiting a bug, but if it's a beno player it should be rewarded and encouraged? No, I don't think so. Cheating is cheating and it doesn't matter who does it or which side they're on.
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    Off weed regen shouldnt be a thing, weeds are there a for a reason. Shipside xenos were nerfed for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FGRSentinel View Post
    It's not impressive. Right now any Lurker that heals on Almayer without weeds present is abusing an exploit with the offweed regen keystone mutator to gain an edge in a situation that's already set up to heavily favor them (a large, mostly empty ship with most people lacking firearms). If this was a Marine player, they'd be noted and potentially tempbanned for powergaming/exploiting a bug, but if it's a beno player it should be rewarded and encouraged? No, I don't think so. Cheating is cheating and it doesn't matter who does it or which side they're on.
    Hey lets not call it an exploit. The lurkers arent cheating. The devs are just terrible at foresight. The devs have proven multiple times they dont think things through at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ View Post
    Hey lets not call it an exploit. The lurkers arent cheating. The devs are just terrible at foresight. The devs have proven multiple times they dont think things through at all.
    This +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterShakeEZ View Post
    Hey lets not call it an exploit. The lurkers arent cheating. The devs are just terrible at foresight. The devs have proven multiple times they dont think things through at all.
    Except that people have been noted/banned for exploiting the bug that apparently lets a miniflamer shoot through walls or something based off staff reports. Staff have come out and said that it's not an intended feature. Staff have told at least one Lurker doing this that they had to stop resting to heal on Almayer. Like it or not, unless staff come out and say otherwise, it's obviously an exploit.
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    Hello~~
    I'd just like to chime in to state a few things.
    - Bugs and exploits happen, you cant reasonnably expect a dev team working on a game involving over 100 players trying to kill each other to merge things that work 100% on the first try every time.
    - Both Xenos and Marines are given leeway with some bug abusing or generally exploiting behaviors when updates get merged. There are multiple reasons for this, the usual one being it's impossible for the staff team to enforce fairly and coherently. These issues are fixed by the dev team as fast as they can.
    - Stop shitting on the dev team. If you guys aren't happy with the way they work, you're free to go. If you find another RP oriented game as complex as this one that allows two hundred players to fight each other the way they do, with regular updates and a developpement team that values community feedback as much, please let me know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharinoma View Post
    Hello~~
    I'd just like to chime in to state a few things.
    - Bugs and exploits happen, you cant reasonnably expect a dev team working on a game involving over 100 players trying to kill each other to merge things that work 100% on the first try every time.
    - Both Xenos and Marines are given leeway with some bug abusing or generally exploiting behaviors when updates get merged. There are multiple reasons for this, the usual one being it's impossible for the staff team to enforce fairly and coherently. These issues are fixed by the dev team as fast as they can.
    - Stop shitting on the dev team. If you guys aren't happy with the way they work, you're free to go. If you find another RP oriented game as complex as this one that allows two hundred players to fight each other the way they do, with regular updates and a developpement team that values community feedback as much, please let me know.
    It's not a bug or an exploit it's just poor oversight.

    -Xenos can heal off weeds mutator
    -Devs changed it so Xenos can heal on any Z level regardless of the Queen.

    There's nothing wrong with criticism over updates, and telling people to just go play another server if they don't like an update is a shitty attitude. Especially for a senior staff member.
    Thanks have a CM Day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharinoma View Post
    Hello~~
    I'd just like to chime in to state a few things.
    - Bugs and exploits happen, you cant reasonnably expect a dev team working on a game involving over 100 players trying to kill each other to merge things that work 100% on the first try every time.
    - Both Xenos and Marines are given leeway with some bug abusing or generally exploiting behaviors when updates get merged. There are multiple reasons for this, the usual one being it's impossible for the staff team to enforce fairly and coherently. These issues are fixed by the dev team as fast as they can.
    - Stop shitting on the dev team. If you guys aren't happy with the way they work, you're free to go. If you find another RP oriented game as complex as this one that allows two hundred players to fight each other the way they do, with regular updates and a developpement team that values community feedback as much, please let me know.
    Ya we will see if you keep saying that when one of the other servers starts hosting 24/7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharinoma View Post
    Hello~~
    - Stop shitting on the dev team. If you guys aren't happy with the way they work, you're free to go. If you find another RP oriented game as complex as this one that allows two hundred players to fight each other the way they do, with regular updates and a developpement team that values community feedback as much, please let me know.
    We shit on them because we love them and love this game. Don't even think of getting into the TORtanic mindset of "hurr if you criticize something you hate it." That mindset is absolutely cancer for any project. The moment people stop criticizing it means they stop giving a fuck.

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