Current One (as of Jan 9th 2020)
Three Second Delay after Nesting
No Delay (original)
None of the others
More active Xeno has been an issue and something we've needed for as long as CM has existed.
Remember that Marines have gotten themselves a metric fuck-ton of QoL improvements while Xenos have remained largely untouched besides stats for a long long time.
Xenos heavily disagreed and I still do that we can't drag corpses around, we're supposed to just leave you in plain view to get defibbed?
I used to be in the camp of 'why can't Xenos drag corpses?' back in my newbie days. I quickly realized why it's good that they can't when a Runner dropped me off in the far corner of the map while I had a sliver of health, then executed me.Originally Posted by bobatnight
It can be abused, and it's anti-fun. I'm all for sacrifices for the sake of fun, but sometimes the sacrifice simply isn't worth it. And forcing people to fight over corpses was a good sacrifice in my opinion. Forcing Marines to burst because they got hit by one of many aoe CC abilities? Not so much.
Last edited by Mevennos; 01-12-2020 at 01:26 AM.
Keep the permahive by all means as it doesn't make sense for humans to be able to escape, just make it harder for xenos to get them back to the hive, such as removing the ability to "eat" marines, throwing huggers and carriers.
We are actively trying to reduce ability for xenos to drag from the frontlines or backlines. Eggs, hugger changes, speed of hugger application, the fact that you have to be on the ground laying for 2 seconds for carrier hug to apply. The fact that runner cannot have an egg near a frontline to drag you into.
But as soon as you are near hive, as soon as you are close to those eggs and nests - you are absolutely fair game. I have no intentions to promote aggressive hive pushing round start, neither I have intentions of promoting hug-n-drag gameplay
AoE CCs are going, besides ones you can avoid or cancel
I feel like the change is fine so long as we maintain the requirement for nests and eggs to be placed near the hive. Besides, most of the time when marines are captured, their objectives are never really to escape, but to make the xeno team suffer as much as possible (by either forcing at least one player to babysit them or effectively ruining a small group of potential hosts by just popping a single M15) before they inevitably die and log off. I'd be more empathetic to those who think that marines should be able to resist for the chance of escape, but we all know that's really what happens the large majority of the time.
keeping this in place will probably help with marine rushing
is it the only way to deal with that? of course not
but I don't see any better solutions atm
and really this kinda setup makes it easier for a group to get to a nested marine to break em free, if they so choose
xenos are just leaving nests in the open now, farther from the hive as opposed to before
I feel like a good workaround for permanesting is giving the marines the option of two knives.
Shrapnel knife to remove shrapnel
Escape knife that allows you to break out of the hive
Just an idea though.
Yes. I feel like this is what I was trying to say
today i will bombard marines with shrapnel and constant gas at chokepoints and nest them with zero risk to myself in the tang gas as i return to the frontline to deliver more cancer before i am inevitably killed and deliver ooc salt
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